Dan finally gets Stephen Lorek from Shark Tape to sit still and chat, and it was worth the wait. They delve into the deep, dark recesses of what goes through your head as you're making a follow-up to a successful record, and how, in the end, it's all about playing music with your friends. Plus, Dan gives his farewell to David Bowie.

Happy New Year to all! Dan sits down with two Washington DC musicians, Ben Tufts and Jackie Francis, and the three of them have themselves a ball. The talk goes from the TV show "Psych" to how each of us has weird ways of thinking about music theory to cooking and everywhere else. And Jackie plays a track from her new album, "The Sea", available everywhere the Internet exists. So much fun is had.