In the gripping conclusion of Dan and Jesse's conversation (which starts with the sentence "Ok, so where were we?"), Jesse details the end of days for The Point, and the growing of Point Entertainment, and their relationship with venues like the Keswick Theater, Ardmore Music Hall, and Locks at SONA. Jesse even talks a bit about his musical project with Hannah Taylor, and how he doesn't like to use his job as a promoter to get special treatment as a musician (unless it's to open for Delbert McClinton). 

Jesse Lundy (Point Entertainment) has been part of the Philadelphia scene for 25 plus years, promoting concerts, booking, running the late Ardmore venue The Point for 8 years, and helping grow Philly artists like John Francis and The Brakes. Dan and Jesse talk about how he got into concerts, guitar, the blues, and how the music business is both horrible and wonderful all at the same time. Enjoy Part 1, Part 2 comes your way next week.

Dan met Lauren at a house show last fall, and was instantly taken with how unique her playing, songwriting, and guitar tone were. Lauren came over to chat about her travels about the country, the many instruments she plays besides guitar, how she honed in on her sound, the newness of recording her material for the first time, and her early love of Stanley Clarke and musicals.

Making the trek from Lebanon, PA, Alex talks with Dan about growing up with a guitar virtuoso dad (and overcoming a fear of touching peoples' guitars), making his own music and records at home, starting his podcast to keep him from becoming an antisocial hermit, and his collective record label, Try Less Club. They also try their best not to name check major corporations for free, and fail completely.

Dan sits down with Mark Brown and Rob Tait of Hambone Relay for a conversation about DIY touring, playing 2+ hour shows, how to "jams", and the things they don't teach you in music school. They have a Philly music-centric podcast, too, called 'Dude, Check This Out!'. Hambone Relay are a Philly based instrumental organ-led combo, with strong influences from bands like Soulive and Medeski, Martin, and Wood. They have a new LP out called 'Say Hi To Earl', available on their website and anywhere you get digital music.

Dan revisits some outstanding music from this year. From Philadelphia, and a few Philly-adjacent artists, it's a compilation of just a small sampling of some of the killer releases that have been put out this year. Enjoy music from A Day Without Love, Elaine Rasnake, Forest Kids Collective, Dave Cope and the Sass, and many more. Go to 25oclockpod.com for the full track list and links to the artists. Enjoy, and Happy Holidays from 25 O'Clock. Here's to another great year.

Not only does Jeremiah come over to talk with Dan, he brings a couple of the guys in the Lore (his backing band): Ben Money and Tim Bostwick. The guys chat about their upbringing, about finally breaking out of their small hometown as musicians, and their incredibly unique approach to instrumentation that keeps them from being just another roots-folk band. They've got a new record out, 'From Bare Bones', available anywhere you get digital music.

Since both Interminable and Hardwork Movement have been on the show, it's entirely fitting that Dan and Marty Gottlieb-Hollis get a chance to talk. Marty is an accomplished trumpet player, writer, composer, and member of both the aforementioned bands, as well as many more. Dan and Marty talk about how Marty came to the trumpet, putting it on hold for years to pursue hockey, picking it back up and deciding that it was missing from his life the whole time. Marty has a solo project called Martronimous, and a new single out now called 'Incompleteness', available anywhere you get digital music.

Jesse Gimbel is an accomplished singer-songwriter, performer, and DIY producer and engineer. With a body of work that goes back more than a decade, Dan and Jesse have a lot to talk about: making music all by yourself, being really good at finishing things, taking on the creation of the videos for his songs, and how the "time" to be creative will never really be there unless you go and make it happen. Jesse has a new single out called 'Minds On Fire' (with a video he animated himself).

John Morrison is a DJ, producer, musician, writer, podcast host, and a general Philly Renaissance man. Dan and John talk about John growing up seeing hip-hop at a young age thanks to his brother's influence, learning how to make his own samples, his tips for crate-digging, and the solitude of being your own beat-maker. More talk includes: high school tribes, getting someone else to edit your podcast, and how no one actually wants to be Joe Rogan, including Joe Rogan sometimes. John is the host of Culture Cypher Radio, a new program on WXPN 88.5 FM, and cohosts the podcast 'Serious Rap Sh*t' with Josh Indi Leidy.

Katie and Dan go way back to a sidewalk show in 2009 that they both played, and have been friends ever since. Katie returns to the show (she was one of the first guests, way back on #14) to talk about her new record, 'Long Night Moon', her music being featured on Netflix in a pretty odd scene for a folk song, and some general songwriting catch-up for the two. 

Dan and Dave talk about Dave's massive catalog of music, his long journey as a songwriter and performer, and how Debussy was right when he said that it's a great life to be a musician, but a crummy job. From his studies of South Indian Classical tradition to his embracing the pop song in so many of it's forms, Dave Cope is a writer and musician who likes to break up his own patterns and see what shakes out. His newest LP, 'Dave Cope and the Sass', is out now everywhere you get music. 

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Kristen Levine and Paige Walter are the brains and brawn and the everything behind Cherry-Veen Zine, a real, on-paper zine that spotlights Philly musicians and artists. Dan, Kristen, and Paige talk about how they started the magazine, the evolution of it's style, and the moments when it really feels like they're getting somewhere. With plenty of similarities between zines and podcasts, it's a spirited conversation about the work and the rewards of being scene supporters in Philadelphia music community. 

Dan and Mike were very nearly in a band together way back in 2004. 15 years later, they're catching up about Mike's newest project, Pretend Collective. Dan and Mike talk about Mike's time with bands like Hoots and Hellmouth, becoming himself as a musician and as a person, and the flip-side of always keeping busy as a musician. Pretend Collective's self-titled LP is out 9/13 on Giving Groove Records.

Back from a brief summer break, Dan talks with Yeho about his many, MANY projects, including Likebirds, Interminable, Circadian Rhythms, and more. Yeho tells about his musical education at CAPA as a clarinetist, studying in Miami, coming home to Philly, and finding himself in the jam band scene. The two discuss what kind of responsibilities are on performers and promoters in the midst of movements like #metoo, and racial exclusion in the music scene. 

Valentina returns to the show to talk to Dan about her upcoming record, 'Bring On The Fire', her fundraising to make it a reality, and all the tumultuous events that led up to the album being written in the first place. Talking openly about her recent separation from her partner, Valentina takes us through the writing and recording process of the record, and how it'll there to help others as much as it has helped her. Her fundraising campaign ends on July 17th, so if you like what you hear and want to help, go here to lend a hand. 

Dan and Marcelyn Lebovitz talk about the box of CDs she inherited from her brothers and how it changed her life, how much touring is "just enough", going to the Creative and Performing Arts High School of Philadelphia, and diversity in Philly DIY. She also hips Dan to bullet journaling, and offers to give him voice lessons (she's a classically trained singer), which he probably needs.

Taking a break from format, Dan offers up a series of live performances from the West Philly Porch Fest, a DIY community music festival that boasted more than 180 acts performing over the course of an afternoon. Hosted on porches all over West Philadelphia, here are 8 performances, presented in a stream, giving you a taste of what it's like to wander the neighborhood in search of live music. 

Dan and Elaine talk about her new live EP recorded at Philly's Music Ward, studying audio production as her school's only female recording student, what the Philly DIY scene has helped her accomplish, and a love of Sufjan Stevens. Elaine is on tour with Kate Dressed Up in June, go elainerasnake.com for more info.

After featuring Marc's band, Good Morning Daydreamer, on last episode's music compilation, it was good timing that he was able to talk with Dan. Dan and Marc go deep into how Marc came to music (spoiler: it involves a flute, and an upright bass), his influences (Miles Davis, Bill Evans, etc), and how he came back from a debilitating injury that threatened his ability to play music. The newest Good Morning Daydreamer record is called 'Rinse and Repeat' and is available everywhere you get digital music.

Join Dan as he takes a break from his usual tasks like talking to people, and brings you a lively compilation of new Philly music from artists like Night Windows, Yeenar, Khemist, Forest Kids Collective, Sophie Coran, and many more. Go to 25oclockpod.com for the full playlist and links.

Dan and The Chairman Dances frontman Eric have a lively chat about his work with producer/auteur Daniel Smith (Danielson), touring with Rhett Miller, and all the work and thought and work and people and work that goes into being able to do things like that. 

Ximena Violante and St. Clair Simmons, two members of the Latin folk/jazz/psychedelic group Interminable, sit down with Dan to talk about how they came to music, working in a band with so many different kinds of people and perspectives, how to tame a predominantly live sound in the studio, and coin the catchphrase "New People, Good Stuff". 

Dan sits down with Sterling Duns and RB Ricks of Hardwork Movement to talk about their influences, their love of all things Philadelphia, and the philosophy behind what makes the group what it is. Keeping the conversation free and loose, there's a lot of laughs, and a lot to think about (definitely the first time bell hooks has been discussed extensively). This episode was co-produced by Kyle Pulley of Headroom Studios.

With their new LP, ‘Pineapple Slasher’, out in the world, Jon Urban and John Rinaldo talk with Dan about the making of the record, how Tiger Castle morphed into a proper band after years of being Jon’s basement solo project, and working with The Headroom’s Kyle Pulley (Thin Lips) to put the finishing touches on the whole thing.